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Post by johnreiter902 on Apr 23, 2020 18:06:02 GMT
This is an Infinite Multiverse idea. What if there was a world where the founding members of the JSA were the counterparts of the founding members of the JLA and vice versa.
So, the founding members of the JSA on this Alternate Earth-2 would be
Superman (Earth-2) Batman (Earth-2) Wonder Woman (Earth-2) Green Lantern (Alan Scott) Flash (Jay Garrick) Roh Kar, the Lawman of Mars Aquaman (Earth-2)
Meanwhile, on the Alternate Earth-1. the founding members of the JLA would be Superman (Earth-1) Batman (Earth-1) Flash (Barry Allen) Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Atom (Ray Palmer) Sandman (Garrett Sanford) Phantom Stranger Prince Ra-Man Hawkman (Katar Hol) Mighty Man (Jimmy Olsen, using pills created by Prof. Potter that give him power like superman for 12 hours)
All the adventures of the teams are the same, only the team line-ups are different.
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Post by DocQuantum on Apr 23, 2020 18:08:57 GMT
I like these kinds of cool speculations! Any idea on how it would work in a story?
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Post by DocQuantum on Apr 23, 2020 23:52:15 GMT
Not to derail your thread, but I once had an idea that this one reminded me of: That, in an alternate timeline or magically remade world, the Justice League of America was founded by different versions of the Detroit-era JLA members, who were Earth's first and greatest superheroes, while Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, et al, were the new kids on the block. Obviously Vibe, Steel, Vixen, etc, were a bit more mature and professional as befitting Earth's greatest heroes, while the Johnny-come-latelies Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman were seen as youngsters with bad attitudes.
As well, all the heroes of Earth-1 debuted in reverse order, so the Detroit JLAers were the first, while Superman (who's really a Superboy more like Kon-El) is one of the last. I guess the newest heroes to appear would be versions of Captain Comet and J'onn J'onzz, if the rules were consistent.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Apr 24, 2020 2:10:25 GMT
I like these kinds of cool speculations! Any idea on how it would work in a story? Well, I speculated a little bit on the origin stories of the teams. Obviously, some characters debuted early in each world.
On Alternate-Earth-2, Batman, Green Lantern, and Flash are still called in to investigate German activities in Scotland. They are captured, and taken to Berlin. Aquaman and Wonder Woman arrive to rescue them, but are captured as well when Hitler unveils the Spear of Destiny. They escape, and with the help of Roh Kar, who arrives just as the Nazi invasion force is crossing the channel, they defeat the invasion of Britain. Learning of a massive Nazi superbomber escorted by valkries still on it's way to Washington DC, they race across the ocean, and defeat the attack on Washington with the help of Superman.
On Alternate Earth-1, the Appellaxians still invaded. Flash defeated the Fire Giant, Green Lantern the Golden Bird, Prince Ra-Man the Stone Giant, Hawkman the Mercury Blob, Atom the Glass Giant, and Superman, Batman, and Mighty Man joined forces to defeat the Diamond Giant. All the heroes were captured by the Wood Giant, but the Sandman and the Phantom Stranger arrived and rescued them.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Apr 24, 2020 13:11:54 GMT
Even though Zatara is more famous on Earth-1, I thought that Prince Ra-Man was more similar in style to Dr. Fate, plus he had an egyptian connection.
Hourman was the hardest to find a fit for. But Jimmy Olsen was always getting temporary powers from pills and formulas in the silver age, so I used him.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Apr 24, 2020 13:16:14 GMT
I like those selections too.
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Post by dans on Apr 24, 2020 21:24:35 GMT
I'm missing the point of this, I think. Is it just a different cast of Earth 2 characters we already know forming a smaller JSA with somewhat different membership than the main E2 JSA? Same time frame on Alt E2 as on E2, early 40s? I thought when I started reading that you might be suggesting putting the E1 hero analogs on Alt E2 and vv, so there would be changes in powers as well as time swaps...
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Post by johnreiter902 on Apr 25, 2020 14:07:56 GMT
The idea is that the Earth-2 analogues of the founding JLA members form the JSA instead, and the Earth-1 analogues of the founding ten JSA members for the JLA instead.
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 25, 2020 5:31:32 GMT
It appears we have spam, folks.
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Post by dans on Sept 25, 2020 20:05:09 GMT
Doc never lets spam hang around long!
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 27, 2020 17:03:58 GMT
I wonder if there are Marvel heroes from the 40s who have parallels with DC's golden age heroes? For example, would the scholarly and athletic Angel (Tom Halloway) be their Mr. Terrific? Whizzer and Flash? Miss America and Liberty Belle? Marvex the Super Robot and Robotman? Captain America and Guardian or Cap. and Mr. America? Or for that matter Cap. America and Star-Spangled Kid? Actually, non DC types like V-Man, U S Jones, and Flagman seem closer to Cap. America than the Dc heroes.
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Post by dans on Sept 27, 2020 17:13:08 GMT
There was a Cap/Batman team up a few years ago which made a point of showing the differences between Bucky and Robin in particular. There really is no good DC analog for Cap.
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Post by johnreiter902 on Sept 28, 2020 0:17:55 GMT
I wonder if there are Marvel heroes from the 40s who have parallels with DC's golden age heroes? For example, would the scholarly and athletic Angel (Tom Halloway) be their Mr. Terrific? Whizzer and Flash? Miss America and Liberty Belle? Marvex the Super Robot and Robotman? Captain America and Guardian or Cap. and Mr. America? Or for that matter Cap. America and Star-Spangled Kid? Actually, non DC types like V-Man, U S Jones, and Flagman seem closer to Cap. America than the Dc heroes. An intriguing idea. I'll work on it. |
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Post by johnreiter902 on Sept 28, 2020 0:48:47 GMT
How about this for a Marvel=version of the JSA?
Atom Bucky
Batman Challenger
Dr. Fate Monako
Flash Whizzer
Green Lantern Human Torch
Hawkman Red Raven
Hourman Marvel Boy
Sandman Phantom Bullet
Spectre Vision
Superman Marvex
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 28, 2020 0:50:33 GMT
It's interesting that there's no Wonder Woman equivalent, which says a lot about Timely/Marvel at that point in its development.
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