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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 21, 2020 12:32:52 GMT
I must say, it was good to see the Elongated Man and Sue back again, although one imagines there must have been a time wrinkle somewhere when it comes to their outfits, given that Ralph hasn't had a secret identity for years. I hated the post-Crisis plotline where Jean Loring murdered Sue, and shortly after Ralph also died. So I imagine there's an untold story in which a slight historical revision has occurred, Ralph didn't disclose his identity, and Sue joined him in the metahuman stakes at some point later. Could make a very interesting story, although I realise the deaths of the Dibnys will never occur in the 5 Earths context. I really love the duo Ralph and Sue Dibny they are a very nice, fun and cool couple from Universe DC. I am really happy that at least here on the DC 5 Earths forum Ralph and Sue Dibny they had a happy ending and the same thing that happened in the regular DC universe of comics did not happen to them and the two were not victims of any personal tragedy. What DC Comics did with Ralph and Sue Dibny in comics was a rascality without size. I wanted to see them dare to do that with Superman, or Batman or Wonder Woman in the main universe of comics and not in any different Parallel Universe to see the size of the trouble they were going to get. I am really much more pleased to know that at least here Ralph and Sue Dibny are well and happy because I made sure to include The Elongated Man / Ralph Dibny in the JLI.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 21, 2020 12:36:36 GMT
Yeah, Ralph and Sue still live and have a daughter now. I'm really happy to hear that because what DC Comics did with Sue and later with Ralph in Identity Crisis was scoundrel
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 22, 2020 1:10:27 GMT
Oh, that's interesting! Has Ralph and Sue's daughter decided to quaff the gingold yet, or is she still a toddler? I see a series of Elongated Girl stories possible from this. And I also think Kaiser's idea about Sue becoming Elongated Woman is a damned good one. They've been retconned out of existence in the main DC universe after the events of Blackest Night where they became Black Lanterns for a time. They deserve better.
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Sept 22, 2020 2:08:26 GMT
THeir child is still a toddler, but she inherited her father's powers. Obviously, the gingold use has affected him on a genetic level.
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 22, 2020 2:42:44 GMT
Hmm. Given a few years, she might be a good proposition for Teen Titans membership?
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Sept 22, 2020 4:16:07 GMT
Eventually. Aquaman has a daughter, too. Superman and Superwoman are raising Jasma, the daughter of the late Kara Zor-El. (It was revealed in the comics that after her death that she had been married to an alien during a brief period of amnesia and I did a story revealing that a child had been conceived in a birthing matrix.)
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 22, 2020 4:45:10 GMT
So does that also mean Iris Allen still got pregnant in 2985 with Barry during the brief interlude they were together, and that Don and Dawn Allen, Bart Allen and Jenni Ognats exist in the 5 Earths as well? It's good to hear Aquaman and Mera finally got over Arthur Jr's death and had another child, too. I've been bothered about the relative absence of children within the DC metahuman community until quite recently. Why did Hawkman and Hawkwoman/Hawkgirl never settle down and start a family of their own? Was it written into their Thanagarian police employment contracts? Or Dinah and Oliver, for that matter? They've been together for long enough.
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Post by jonclark on Sept 22, 2020 6:49:53 GMT
So does that also mean Iris Allen still got pregnant in 2985 with Barry during the brief interlude they were together, and that Don and Dawn Allen, Bart Allen and Jenni Ognats exist in the 5 Earths as well? It's good to hear Aquaman and Mera finally got over Arthur Jr's death and had another child, too. I've been bothered about the relative absence of children within the DC metahuman community until quite recently. Why did Hawkman and Hawkwoman/Hawkgirl never settle down and start a family of their own? Was it written into their Thanagarian police employment contracts? Or Dinah and Oliver, for that matter? They've been together for long enough. I know Barry and iris had at least one child, a daughter who has come back as a teenager to the 20th century. As for other meta-human kids- the problem is female heroes would need maternity leave and in an ongoing comic that is hard to work in. Ralph can have all the adventures he wants while Sue is pregnant as she is not physically battling anyone. Shayera or Dinah would have trouble being active characters in stories alongside Katar and Ollie while pregnant. Not saying it is a bad idea, just that I can see why DC never used it.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 22, 2020 13:48:22 GMT
Barry's daughter is Deena Allen. She is in Young Justice. But in our pre criss LSH contunity Don and Dawn are descendents of the Flash not his children.
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 22, 2020 14:43:14 GMT
By the way isn't Sue allergic to Gingold? Her Detective Comics attempt to be an Elongated Woman consisted of her using stilts and extending arms to fool some crooks.
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Post by DocQuantum on Sept 22, 2020 15:05:35 GMT
Why did Hawkman and Hawkwoman/Hawkgirl never settle down and start a family of their own? Was it written into their Thanagarian police employment contracts? Or Dinah and Oliver, for that matter? They've been together for long enough. I’ve addressed the Hawks’ lack of children in the Legion of Doom story.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 22, 2020 18:28:15 GMT
Oh, that's interesting! Has Ralph and Sue's daughter decided to quaff the gingold yet, or is she still a toddler? I see a series of Elongated Girl stories possible from this. And I also think Kaiser's idea about Sue becoming Elongated Woman is a damned good one. They've been retconned out of existence in the main DC universe after the events of Blackest Night where they became Black Lanterns for a time. They deserve better. I would find it quite interesting if the young daughter of Ralph and Sue Dibny the Elongated Girl became a member of Young Justice or else of the Titans to take their first steps in the career of young superheroine inspired by the Father and if he left as well as a heroine that would surprise his parents with the natural talent she would demonstrate as a meta-human superheroine with super powers elastic.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 22, 2020 18:28:53 GMT
THeir child is still a toddler, but she inherited her father's powers. Obviously, the gingold use has affected him on a genetic level. I would love to see other children of superheroes and superheroes present here at Universe DC 5 Earths to become members of the Titans or Young Justice as perhaps children of Nightwing / Dick Grayson and Starfire, of Batwoman / Barbara Gordon, of Hawkman / Katar Hol and Hawkwoman / Shayera Thal among others.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 22, 2020 18:30:15 GMT
Hmm. Given a few years, she might be a good proposition for Teen Titans membership? I would simply love to see beloved members of the Titans who were murdered by DC Comics at the hands of Superboy Prime in the genocide that made the team in Infinite Crisis all still alive and right here on the DC 5 Earths forum.
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Post by kaiserleomon on Sept 22, 2020 18:31:15 GMT
Eventually. Aquaman has a daughter, too. Superman and Superwoman are raising Jasma, the daughter of the late Kara Zor-El. (It was revealed in the comics that after her death that she had been married to an alien during a brief period of amnesia and I did a story revealing that a child had been conceived in a birthing matrix.) I didn't know that here you kept what happened in Crisis on Infinite Earths that Supergirl died facing the Anti-Monitor, I thought that at least here Kara would have survived this fact. A pity. But at least I think there may be a chance of making her daughter here on the DC 5 Earths forum become the new Supergirl that would be the version of this Universe of Matrix.
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