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Post by dans on Feb 21, 2023 22:18:51 GMT
Do Vandal Savage and General Immortus know each other?
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Post by redsycorax on Feb 21, 2023 23:31:40 GMT
Not in pre-Crisis continuity, although a post-Crisis Wonder Woman story brought together all of DC's extant immortals, which included both Vandal and Immortus. One was a Justice Society opponent, the other was an adversary of the Doom Patrol, so they may have existed/exist on different Earths, with Immortus on Earth-One and Vandal on Earth-Two. Is there an Earth-One Vandal Savage, though?
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Post by dans on Feb 22, 2023 0:15:59 GMT
I believe Vandal Savage at once traveled between E1 and E2, but I don't know about in our continuity
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Feb 22, 2023 1:00:23 GMT
Vandal Savage travelled to E-1's past pre-crisis and changed history, taking over the world. The Kents even brought baby Kal-El to him and he raised him to be his enforcer. Rebels Jimmy and Lois eventually convince him Savage is bad.
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Post by jonclark on Feb 22, 2023 7:38:26 GMT
Vandal Savage travelled to E-1's past pre-crisis and changed history, taking over the world. The Kents even brought baby Kal-El to him and he raised him to be his enforcer. Rebels Jimmy and Lois eventually convince him Savage is bad. Savage stuck around for awhile after that as a Superman foe. He was a sort of test run for the Post-Crisis businessman take on Luthor. Having no history on Earth-1 he set up a business that to the public did good things while Vandal was setting up Superman. Ultimately a year or so before Crisis Superman managed to expose Vandal for he was and Savage apparently returned to Earth-2 by the time of Crisis, |
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Post by dans on Feb 22, 2023 11:35:44 GMT
so no good reasons why Vandal Savage should know either General Immortus or Immortal Man, since they are on different Earths.
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Feb 22, 2023 15:27:43 GMT
Paladinlgt brought Resurrection Man into our Earth-2 continuity, so you could use him as a substitute.
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Post by dave on Feb 22, 2023 15:53:44 GMT
Immortals as of 1963
1. Shazam
2. Sepah
3. The Voice
4. Woton
5. Nabu
6. Ian Karkull
7. Queen Hippolyta and the Amazons of Paradise Isle (Themyscria) as long as the stay on their island home,
8. Man of the Ages (Bulletman villain America's Best vol #3)
9. Cyrus Smythe (Plastic Man foe from Police Comics Vol 1 #11)
10. Terwilliger ( Captain Marvel Adventures Vol 1 #16)
11. Soothsayer Actually dies in February 1943 (Captain Marvel Vol 1 #21)
12. Pied Piper I (Uncle Sam Vol 1 #6 March1943)
13. Setap of Ophir (Action Comics Vol 1 #17 October 1939)
14. Unnamed Spaniard and his fountain of life who dies in 1943 (Sensation Comics Vol 1 #21 September 1943)
15. Vandal Savage (Green Lantern vol 1 #9 December 1943)
16. Pied Piper I (Flash Comics Vol 1 #59 November 1944 Hawkman)
17. A nameless man 5000 years old (All-Flash Vol #19 June 1945)
18. Rocks Arnold, a crook who gains immortality in 1945 (All-Flash Vol #19 June 1945)
19. Oggar (Captain Marvel Adventures Vol 1 #610 May 1946)
20. Circe (Captain Marvel Adventures Vol 1 #66 October 1946)
21. Eternal Enemy gained his immortality in the 1700's, possibly died in his first appearance (Blackhawk Vol 1 #14 March 1947)
22. An small village in the remotest French Alps (Detective Comics Vol 1 #127 September 1947)
23. Captain Marvel Jr battles the immortal Man Who Lived Forever thank to a formula he need to take, but didn't and did in 1947 Captain Marvel Jr Vol 1 #54 October 1947)
24. Galio a Spaniard who discovered the the Elixir of Youth who lived for 500 years until he died in 1948. All-Star Comics Vol 1 #42 August 1948
25. Captain Marvel Jr meets a cursed Princess Penelope and her entourage who are over1400 years old and will die rapidly if they ever leave the Enchanted Castle, (captain Marvel Jr Vol 1 #64 August 1948.
26. Sir Traytor from the King Arthur era.
27. The De Leon family who found the fountain of Youth, but are unable to leave its environs lest they die. Batman Vol 1 #54 August 1949
28. Abraham Pewter buried himself in a tunnel during the year 1976 and briefly came out in 1950 before returning to his underground lair (Police Comics Vol 1 #100 June 1950)
29. In 1950 Emil Petit was an arms dealer who killed the inventor Serge Kalkov of a life sustaining serum 260 years prior and was killed by P'Gell in 195o as the Spirit tried to escort him to America. Spirit did get a partial formula to the United States.
30. Ebeneezer Witt is 200 years old in 1951. Marvel Family Vol 1 #58 April 1951
31. the criminal Dante Leonardo, an immortal born in 15th century Venice Italy fought Robin I in 1950 (Star-Spangled Comics Vol 1 #116 May 1951)
32. Black hawk finds an assortment of immortals living in a Saragossa Sea in including a now reformed Captain Cutlass I. Blackhawk Vol 1 #48 January 1952
33. Baron Krumble and his servants are over 300 years old as they steal the life force of others until defeated by the Marvel Family in 1952 (The Marvel Family Vol 1 #69 March 1952)
34. A 10000 year old Atlantean tries to returns to the surface world and dies after battling Captain Comet (Strange Adventures Vol 1 #20 may 1952)
35. Princess Vyra is a beautiful woman from 25,000 years in the past and from an advanced civilization on Earth (Atlantis?) who puts herself into suspended animation a sshe looks for the perfect mate and is awakened by Tommy Tomorrow. (Action Comics Vol 1 #221 October 1956)
36. Junius was a sorcerer from the time of Roman Emperor Augustus who guarded the world from giant stone eating butterflies who died shortly after their escape in 1959. House of Secrets vol 1 #26 November 1959
37. Atom II discovers a sub atomic world made up of inhabitants of Atlantis which they call Utolia who have become immortal. Atom Vol 1 #5 February 1963.
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Post by dans on Feb 22, 2023 17:12:54 GMT
Paladinlgt brought Resurrection Man into our Earth-2 continuity, so you could use him as a substitute. Thanks, SH. I'm not actually looking for a character, I was just curious. But now I know! I wonder how many of those guys Dave named know each other? |
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Feb 22, 2023 19:50:40 GMT
Depending on how old they are, maybe they meet up every century or so.
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Post by redsycorax on Feb 22, 2023 21:38:09 GMT
Unless they're on separate alternate Earths, that is. Although they may know about the existence of those alternate Earths before they become common knowledge or known to other metahumans on that Earth.
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Post by dans on Feb 22, 2023 23:30:02 GMT
That might be an interesting story - the immortals of a particular Earth meet and share their experiences. Of course, some of them are probably mortal enemies of others - if 'mortal' actually means anything to them...
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Post by reichsmark on Feb 22, 2023 23:40:51 GMT
I believe the Vertigo Sandman and Hellblazer series actually did have Dream meet with some of Britain's immmortals about once a century at a certain tavern.
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Post by starskyhutch76 on Feb 22, 2023 23:52:25 GMT
Dream met once a century with a guy who said he never wanted to die. He gave him that boon and then had the meetings at the tavern to catch up with him and see if he still felt the same. He always wanted to keep living whether the last hundred years had been good or bad.
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