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Post by dans on Sept 14, 2023 19:36:37 GMT
Krypton-2 had space technology advanced enough that they could put several criminals into a space vehicle in suspended animation, launch it into space, and have a reasonable expectation that they could recover it when the criminals' sentences were completed. I'm certain, but I have memories that Jor-L invented these vehicles and the process...
Did they only build these space vehicles after a criminal trial was over and the prisoner had actually been sentenced? Was each one unique and hand-crafted? Krypton industry was certainly aware of mass production. Shouldn't there have been at least a small supply of these craft available in the period after Jor discovered the impending explosion and before the disaster actually occurred that he could have utilized to save his immediate family, at least?0
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Post by lawrenceliberty on Sept 14, 2023 20:06:28 GMT
Perhaps the space crafts were easy to make but the idea of creating one that could do more than just orbit Krypton and actually warp through space to other worlds was the difficulty.
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Post by dave on Sept 14, 2023 20:17:17 GMT
Libby's answer makes sense. They also had alien visitors like Halk Kar visit Krypton 2. I would guess they had no interest in space exploration.
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 15, 2023 0:47:35 GMT
I think it might depend on how closely Krypton Two's history corresponded to that of Krypton One. In Krypton One's case, there was a prolonged and brutal occupation from the aggressive Vrang species which adversely affected Kryptonian attitudes toward extraterrestrial life elsewhere. For that reason, one suspects that Krypton may have neglected the possibility of interstellar travel. This would also have been likely if Rao's solar system was distant from any adjacent possible destinations. Unfortunately, Krypton's history was only elaborated in detail during the late fifties and early sixties, so we don't know how much or little Krypton-Two paralleled Krypton-One: dc.fandom.com/wiki/Vrangs |
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Post by dans on Sept 15, 2023 1:33:57 GMT
I'm thinking that Lib is probably right. Jor-L wasn't developing a spaceship, he was developing a warp drive...
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Post by dans on Sept 15, 2023 11:54:26 GMT
In conjunction with this, I'm thinking that perhaps Halk Kar spent more than a short time on Krypton frantically working with Jor-L to fix his spaceship before Krypton exploded. Otherwise, the time working on Halk's ship would have been time Jor-L did NOT spend to save his own family. I think Jor-L thought he had a lot more time, and they fixed Halk's ship and then Jor-L went back to his own ship and Halk hung around for a while before he left. And even when he left, Jor-L was STILL sure there was more time - otherwise, wouldn't Halk have tried to save the L family by stuffing them in his own spaceship? His rocket was clearly large enough to carry more than one person.
What do you guys think? OK to have him hang around Krypton for a few days, at least, after his ship is fixed?
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 16, 2023 0:04:58 GMT
I think much would depend on Jor-L's calculations of core volatility and how close Krypton-Two was to its ultimate detonation. There may have been unaccounted variables that affected his calculations and which resulted in a cascade effect close to the point when the detonation occurred, therefore meaning that the detonation occurred sooner than Jor-L had predicted and he realised that he could only save his son, not his whole family, as he might already have hoped. Halk Kar might have hung around hoping that he could assist Jor-L, but then realised what was happening, so, with a heavy heart, he left Krypton before its destruction.
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Post by dans on Sept 16, 2023 2:05:05 GMT
That's possible. I'm going to write Halk's recollection of that visit as if it actually lasted at least a few days, and see if that passes peer continuity review. Halk's forced landing on Krypton is shown here: comiconlinefree.net/superman-1939/issue-80/11The way it is presented implies to me that there is almost zero time between panels 2 and 3 (Jor says 'already'); I'm going to make it a longer period... |
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Post by redsycorax on Sept 16, 2023 3:21:17 GMT
That sounds like an excellent idea. I think the operative word here is 'redaction'. Just imagine that the story you're going to write has some important details missing and that you're filling in some necessary extra content that needs to be there- which, from what you've described, you are. You don't have to hew to a literal interpretation of events as if they were unnuanced or a full presentation if you think there's some supplementary story content that has to be in there. I'm really looking forward to reading the finished work!
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Post by jonclark on Sept 16, 2023 4:18:17 GMT
At the very least HalK has to be there long enough for his rocket to be repeaired. The panel looks almost as if the rocket was repaired in the time it took him to land, which makes no sense. There has to be some length of time for the repairs to occur and you can stretch that to fit any length of time based on how bad the damage was and whether it required rare/new tech.
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Post by dans on Sept 16, 2023 13:40:25 GMT
That's how I read it, too, Jon - the way I read it the first time through, by the time Halk Kar got off his damaged spaceship, Jor-L had already fixed it! So I'm adding some time between the two panels.
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Post by dans on Sept 16, 2023 13:45:43 GMT
You don't have to hew to a literal interpretation of events as if they were unnuanced or a full presentation if you think there's some supplementary story content that has to be in there. I'm really looking forward to reading the finished work! Thanks. Last time around I dropped the ball in the middle of this story, and I don't want to do that again, so I am going to finish it completely before I start posting new chapters.
There has always been advice around this topic in the 5EP and I often didn't follow it, and sometimes started stories and left them in the middle. I don't think everyone needs to follow this particular rule, as many people are very diligent in completing their stories, but from now on I won't start posting until I have finished writing. And I don't plan to start any new stories until I have finished a lot of my currently open ones. And, I now have time to do that!
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