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Post by lee on Oct 2, 2023 14:03:30 GMT
Without resorting to the mirror trick used to fight the Medusa, what are some other possible ways to fight a creature that you can't risk looking at?
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Post by dans on Oct 2, 2023 14:37:43 GMT
radar, sonar, spider sense, electrocuting armor and or force field, running away over a trap door, then when the opponent falls through, fill the trap with cement. Robot, attack dog, weapons that affect 360 degrees (spin like a top while holding a mace).
Is it - you can't look at them in person? You can't look at the face? Is it the light from the opponent that affects you? Could you wear a 3D headset and have a filter blur the image? Or does the bad guy project something that blinds you?
The opponent must not be Paige (Blindspot) Madison, I guess - although I don't know how a mirror would deal with her power...
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Post by lee on Oct 2, 2023 14:42:08 GMT
To look at them means to risk madness. Most modern conveniences are unavailable.
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Post by DocQuantum on Oct 2, 2023 19:01:03 GMT
I'd say the protagonist might have to tie a blindfold over his eyes and rely on his other senses, as long as there is a risk of seeing this foe.
The protagonist would have to lure the foe to a place where a trap can be sprung. Perhaps explosives might be set to trigger from a tripwire or something, if the protagonist is willing to use potentially lethal means to end the threat. Or perhaps the trap can be in the form of a hidden pit, so that when the enemy walks over something over the ground, a built-in trap door can be pulled, causing the enemy to fall into the pit. If the enemy is running in pursuit of the protagonist, heedless of any potential traps, the enemy might fall into a pit loosely covered with branches and ground cover, but that kind of trap doesn't work as well if they're walking, since they might suspect a trap and walk around it on solid ground.
Of course, the protagonist could also use a double-bluff, using a shallow pit with loose ground cover to allow the enemy to detect it. Then, after they avoid it, they feel a sense of security, thinking the trap has been easily avoided, only to fall prey to the REAL trap immediately after -- perhaps the sturdy trapdoor that is much less easily detectable with a couple of inches of dirt or sand over it.
These ideas all assume that the protagonist will have enough time to fully prepare these kinds of traps, of course. There would have to be some time for the freshly dug-up dirt to dry so that the trap is less easily detectable.
The protagonist could also use long-range weapons, and if the resources are available he could have help from other people to set up his traps and such.
Along with any of the above ideas, the protagonist might also employ blinding light, loud sounds, and simple illusions to distract his foe's attention from the real threat he's set up.
Anyway, those are the routes I would explore.
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Post by dans on Oct 2, 2023 19:26:07 GMT
Force the enemy to attack, keep your eyes closed, wear incredibly durable armor, and then have your kid sidekick shoot him from behind before he can kill you...
Is it the appearance of the enemy that causes madness or some kind of energy/mental projection? Does the madness mechanism work strictly through sight or is there some mental component? Does the good buy have to be looking directly at the bad guy, or can the madness sneak in through peripheral vision?
If the appearance alone is so awful that it causes madness, how about hypnosis to cause the hero to temporarily ignore any visuals that are distressing?
How about using Phantom Lady's black light projector to hide the bad guy in blackness?
Figure out a way to drop a bag over the bad guy...
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Post by dans on Oct 2, 2023 19:26:45 GMT
To look at them means to risk madness. Most modern conveniences are unavailable. OK, I like radar sense/spider sense or echolocation best!
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Post by redsycorax on Oct 2, 2023 21:52:55 GMT
One lower tech method might be use of rigged aerosol paint sprayers or something that leaves a visible residue over their body. Another might be to have a blind yet otherwise sensorily adept combat proficient person (akin to the Justice Society's Doctor Midnite) take over combat with the figure in question. If the combatant in question is blind and the paralysing cues from their protagonist rely on visual contact, then they might be caught off guard. Would infrared bodyheat sensors work? Perhaps targeted immobilizing darts homing in on their body heat?
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Post by lee on Oct 3, 2023 1:45:16 GMT
These are all veru good suggestions, but let me add one more bit of pertinent information. The story is set in the year 1874.
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Post by redsycorax on Oct 3, 2023 4:21:53 GMT
While aerosol spray paint might therefore be out, given it was invented in the twentieth century, spray painting itself was invented to deal with US railway needs in the 1880s. So, what if someone discovered the technique a little earlier? It wouldn't have taken much.
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Post by dans on Oct 3, 2023 18:19:53 GMT
If magic is involved, it shouldn't be too difficult. How about 'Ring of Fire' or 'Inferno' (fills the whole room with flame).
How about going to an asylum and recruiting an inmate to face the bad guy, and then ambushing the bad guy from behind with overwhelming force? The recruit is already judged insane by society - and who knows, facing the bad guy just might cure him...
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Post by redsycorax on Oct 3, 2023 21:34:00 GMT
Further to my comment about spray painting originally being developed in the early 1880s on the US Southern Pacific Railroad rail network, consider that mass communication networks as we know them weren't really developed back then, apart from the telegraph, which was simple to assemble and available from the time of its invention in 1837, but not equipped to handle long, continuous transmission of detailed information. Therefore, it would be highly plausible to have spray painting developed in a remote location without access to a telegraph and the discovery being neglected until it was 'rediscovered' in the early 1880s. If one of the combatants has an engineering background, the idea might occur to them and they might improvise something from available materials, particularly if the fight occurred in the vicinity of a derelict railway station?: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/spray_paintingUsing a spray painter might also have the advantage of obscuring or obstructing fear-inducing aspects of the attacking creature's anatomy.
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